House

House
Front of house

Sunday, 30 January 2011

Fluctuating temperatures


An interesting result for the lounge (fan convector) temperature. The top pairs of curves here are for the out and return heating circuit (5 degreeC per division vertical (zero on the base), and a 2 hour window horizontally). The yellow is the lounge temperature and the red just an on/off trace showing whether the GSHP is working. The outside temperature is very close to zero Centigrade, and has been for a day or two.

Note:-
- The GSHP runs on a fairly long cycle of some 35 minutes (this varies with conditions)
- The fluctuation in lounge temperature is in sync with, and has amplitude about proportional to, the heat circuit temperature (that is about 2 degrees p-p for the room at 20, and 5 p-p for the water at ~50).
- other rooms also fluctuate like this but a good deal less; but the radiators in these rooms have a large heat [hot water] capacity whereas the fan convector (even this big one!) holds very little water.
- the radiators are all balanced to give a substantial temperature drop (~10 degrees) in normal conditions
- the heating circuit is continuously pumped

So one might deduce that the room heating was in dynamic equilibrium with its heat losses with a time constant of less than 30 minutes. But in fact the house temperature varies rather slowly compared with outside conditions with time constants of days. One might wonder about placement of the sensors but mobile thermometers do much the same. So perhaps there are several time constants involved. Hard to know without shutting off the system and watching the temperature fall!

Certainly the rather long cycle time of the GSHP may be fine for ordinary radiators, and even more for underfloor, but it would be good if it were much shorter for fan convectors. I do not see how to achieve this! As a possible fudge one might re-arrange the circuit to put a conventional radiator or some kind of insulated tank in series with the fan convector as a reservoir - but this looks rather complex. As already noted the 'accumulator tank' does not mix significantly and does not provide any significant reservoir function.

Tuesday, 25 January 2011

More surreal electrics

Two phone calls from the supplier in the past week. One asking for feedback on the installation process (though I have already done this online), and one trying to confirm AGAIN that we only have one meter. The latter difficulty seems to arise because back in October someone created a new account for the new 3-phase meter instead of switching it on the existing account. But this has come back many times now and the systems seem unable to get it finally straight! Even though the addresses are the same and the meter install and removal were done by eon-branded staff getting this permanently nailed seems to stretch the system.

There must be a great opportunity to sell them decent tracking software...

Sunday, 16 January 2011

Filtered Rock


Well I checked the filter on the ground loop cicuit as recommended and was astonished by this substantial lump of stone & cement (I think). Still it clearly was filtered and there seemed little else. There is no significant fluid loss.

There is also an air-bubble-type sound from the ground loop near the GSHP when operating; not loud but interesting. I have tried the vent on this (when the p[ump is not operating), though the tank is barely above this. We shall see.

Tuesday, 11 January 2011

More balancing

Well more efforts to rebalance the radiators (to balance the temperature drops across them*) seems to have brought the lounge (fan convector) up a little, though it still is a little low (and fluctuates more). One radiator in particular was seeing too much flow, and thus presumably hogging the hot water. There is no discernable effect on the overall return temperatures but the fan convector seems to run more often and produce more heating.

* by adjusting the 'lockshield' valves at the opposite ends from the thermostatic valves. This is fairly standard and I used thermometers to get 10-11C drops, though pros apparently do it by feel (if at all!).